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Poster: elmagno Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:04pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

This is a list of improperly posted serials at the Internet Archive:

Batman
Batman (second copy)
Captain America
Captain America (second copy)
Flash Gordon
Flash Gordon (second copy)
Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe
Flying Disc Man from Mars
Manhunt of Mystery Island
Superman
Superman (second copy)
The Adventures of Captain Marvel
The Adventures of Captain Marvel (second copy)
The Phantom


This post was modified by elmagno on 2010-06-09 01:04:12

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jun 9, 2010 1:02am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

Found these renewals:

THE PHANTOM, a series of photoplays by
Columbia Pictures Corp. 2 reels each.
(C) Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc.
(PWH)
Episode no.
1. The sign of the skull. (C) 24Dec43;
L12529. 5Nov71; R516136.
2. The man who never dies. (C) 31Dec43;
L12537- 5Nov71; R516137.
3. A traitor's code. (C) 7Jan44;
L12560. lODecYl; R517055.
4. The seat of judgment. (C) lSJan^-A ;
L12567. 10Dec71; R517056.
5. The ghost who walks. (C) 22Jan44;
LI2583. 10Dec71; R517057.
6. Jungle whispers. (C) 29Jan44;
L12608. 10Dec71; R517058.
7. The mysterv well. (C) 5Feb44;
L12779- 6Dec71; R517670.
8. In quest of the keys. (C) 12Feb4~;
L12617. 6Dec71; R517666.
9. The fire princess. (C) 19Feb44;
L12632. 6Dec71; R517667.
10. The chamber of death. (C) 26Feb44;
L12641. 6Dec71; R517&68.
11. The emerald key. (C) 5Mar44;
L12648. 3Jan72; R519972.
12. The fangs of the beast.
(C) 12Mar44; L12780. 3Jan"2; R519543.
13. The road to Zoloz. (C) 17Mar44;
L12684. 3Jan72; R519,:1"4.
14. The lost city. <|*| 24Mar44;
LI2691. 3Jan72; R519375-
15. Peace in the Jungle. S 31Mar44;
L12714. 3Jan72; R519976.

ADVENTURE OF CAPTAIN MARVEL, a series
of photoplays by Republic Produc-
tions. 2 reels each (no.l, 3 reels)
Based on the character In Whiz comics
magazine. (C) Replx, Inc., wholly
owned subsidiary of National Teleflln
Associates, Inc. (PWH)
Chap.
1-6. (C) 28Mar4l; LIO386. 4Apr68;
R* 35158.
7-12. (C) 28Mar41; L10481. 4Apr68;
R33161.

MANHUNT OF MYSTERY ISLAND, a photoplay
in 11 reels by Republic Productions.
(C) 13Jan45; LI3067. Repix, Inc. (PWH);
20Jun72; R531019.

MANHUNT OF MYSTERY ISLAND, a series of
photoplays by Republic Productions.
2 reels each (no.l, 3 reels)
(C) Repix, Inc. (PWH)
6-10. (C) 26Feb45; LI3182. 20Jun72;
R531023.
11-15. (C) llApr45; L13244. 20Jun72;
R531028.

FLASH GORDON, a series of photoplays
by Universal Productions. 2 reels
each. (C) Universal Pictures Co.,
Inc. (PWH)
Battling the sea beast. (C) 17Apr36;
LP6278. 2Apr64; R337803.
Captured by shark men. (C) 9Apr36;
LP6262. 2Apr64; R337798.
The destroying ray. (C) 23Apr36;
LP6298. 2Apr64; R3378O6.
The fire dragon. (C) 20May36;
LP6369. 29Apr64; R336974.
Flaming fortune. (C) 30Apr36; LP6319
2Apr64; R337810.
In the claws of the tlgron.
(C) 3Jun36; LP6386. 28May64;
R338685.
The planet of peril. (C) l8Mar36;
LP6220. 27Feb64; R332767.
Rocketing to earth. (C) 17Jun36;
LP6420. 28May64; R338688.
Shattering doom. (C) 6May36; LP6338.
29Apr64; R336961.
Tournament of death. (C) l4May36;
LP6354. 29Apr64; R336961.
Trapped in the turret. (C) 10Jun36;
LP6397. 28May64; R338686.
The tunnel of terror. (C) 23Mar36;
LP6229. 27Feb64; R332771.
The unseen peril. (C) 27May36;
LP6379. 29Apr64; R336976.

CAPTAIN AMERICA, a series of photoplays
by Republic Productions. 2 reels
each (no.l, 3 reels) (C) Replx, Inc.,
wholly owned subsidiary of National
Telefilm Associates, inc. (PWH)
Chap.
4-10. O 2?Feb44; L12516. 2Aug71;
R610532-
11-15. (C) 5Feb44; L12622. 2Aug71;
R510539-

BATMAN, a series of photoplays by Colum-
bia Pictures Corp. 2 reels each.
5 Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc.
(PWH)
Episode no.
1. The electrical brain. (C) l6Jul43;
LI2638. 27May71; R506411.
2. The bat's cave. (C) 23Jul43;
L12530. 27May71; R506409.
3. The mark of the zombies.
(C) 30Jul43; L12531. 27May71; R50641O.
4. Slaves of the rising sun.
(C) 6Aug43; L12538. 17Jun71; R507445.
5. The living corpse. (C) 13Aug43;
L12539. 17Jun71; R507446.
6. Poison peril. (C) 20Aug43; L12540.
17Jun71; R507447.
7. The phoney doctor. (C) 27Aug43;
L12552. 17Jun71; R507448.

BATMAN, a series of photoplays by Col-
umbia Pictures Corp. 2 reels each.
(C) Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc.
(FrfH)
Chap. no.
8. Lured by radium. (C) 5Sep45;
L12659. 27Aug71; R5H889.
9. The sign of the sphinx. (C) 10Sep45;
L12555. 27Aug71; R511886.
10. Flying spies. (C) 17Sep45; L12561.
27Aug71; R5H887.
11. A Nipponese trap. (C) 24Sep45;
L12562. 27Aug71; R5H888.
12. Embers of evil. (C) 10ct45;
L12565. l4Sep71; R511870.
13. Eight steps down. (C) 80ct43;
L12568. l4Sep71; R511871.
14. The executioner strikes.
(C) 150ct45; L12569. 14Sep71;
R511872.
15. The doom of the rising sun.
(C) 220ct43; L12570. l4Sep71;
R511875|

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Poster: elmagno Date: Jun 9, 2010 3:56pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: What about "The Adventures of Rex and Rinty"?

About the newly posted serial: Is this horse and dog opera PD, I wonder?

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jun 9, 2010 11:10pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: What about 'The Adventures of Rex and Rinty'?

I could find no renewal.

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Poster: elmagno Date: Jun 10, 2010 2:26pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: What about 'The Adventures of Rex and Rinty'?

Nice. Thanks for looking.

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Jun 11, 2010 11:23am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

Captain American is not a lawful renewal, because it is after the 27th year. According to US law the owner has ONE year for renewal within the start of the 27th year. It goes by entrance date and Not calendar year (ie. Jan 1). the renewal posted for CA is 28th year. Check out copyright renewals on the net. I posted one link many moons ago.

Furthermore, Video cellar was asked about early and late renewals to which he could find no support either. Check out the renewal date on the net.

Golan v Gonzalez case (unless it is a hoax) demostrates the copyright office is not above the law. In other words it is the law, not the copyright office which makes it lawful renewal.

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jun 11, 2010 4:28pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

71 - 44 = 27

The renewal was made less than 28 years after the original registration.

Assuming that a year is 365.25 days:

irb(main):010:0> (Date.parse('2Aug1971') - Date.parse('5Feb1944'))/365.25
=> 27.4880219028063

The renewal was made 27.49 years after the original registration.

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Jun 11, 2010 5:11pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

27th to 28th year. U r maybe correct got me signals crossed. I have to recheck a few sites.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jun 14, 2010 5:44am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

The renewal window was far more complicated before the 1976 copyright act came into force. For a film to be timely renewed, it had to be renewed between the 27th and 28th anniversary of the calendar day of registration based on the year in notice not the year of registration.

For Capt America, some films contain a 1943 and some a 1944 date in notice. The renewal time limits would be:
Eps 1-3 were reg'd 31 Dec 43 and needed to be renewed between 31 Dec 70 and 31 Dec 71 (1943 Notices)
Eps 4-10 were reg'd 23 Feb 44 and needed ro be renewed between 23 Feb 71 and 23 Feb 72 (1944 Notices)
Eps 11-15 were reg'd 5 Feb 1944 and needed to be renewed between 5 Feb 71 and 5 Feb 72 (1944 notices)

After 1978, the renewal limit became the end of year for the 28th calendar year after the date in notice.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2010-06-14 12:44:15

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Poster: Scott Saunders Date: Jun 13, 2010 7:13pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

"Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe" has been checked and is in the Public Domain. The remaining two. The original Flash Gordon, and Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars are still under copyright if I'm not mistaken.

I'm curious as to where you acquired your information stating that "Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe" is still under copyright.

In the past two months I've had two films removed based on erroneous copyright claims so forgive me if I sound a little defensive.

This post was modified by Scott Saunders on 2010-06-14 02:13:49

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDetective John Carter of Mars Date: Jun 14, 2010 3:56am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

@I've had two films removed based on erroneous copyright claims

are they back up yet, or what were they?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jun 14, 2010 5:45am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

The "Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe" serial was not renewed and is public domain. There might be soom room for people to argue that the underlying rights in the character, etc. prevent elements of the film being used out of context, but that shouldn't impact the inclusion of the complete episodes of the serial here or anywhere else.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Illegal Movie Serials at the Internet Archive

Good job putting this list together, El Magno. We've seen these items posted before, quite a few times, especially Superman and Batman. The status of these serials has been posted often, yet they're still here, and I can't see why that is.